Whatever happened to GNAT GPL's JVM and .NET targets?

[Shark8]

It's been a while since we've seen a new target for JVM or .NET
- Java Virtual Machine on Windows: 2013 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3e5ac8e196b040fbd8c8
- .NET on Windows: 2014 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3f9dc8e196b040fbfda7

It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

[Lucretia]

Post by Shark8
It's been a while since we've seen a new target for JVM or .NET
- Java Virtual Machine on Windows: 2013 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3e5ac8e196b040fbd8c8
- .NET on Windows: 2014 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3f9dc8e196b040fbfda7
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

AdaCore slapped GPLv3 on the JVM backend. The .NET backend was always GPLv3.#

You can get both from their site, they are there. gnatvm-gpl-2014-src.tar.gz is .NET and JVM, but under JVM it's 2013 version.

[Lucretia]

Post by Lucretia

Post by Shark8
It's been a while since we've seen a new target for JVM or .NET
- Java Virtual Machine on Windows: 2013 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3e5ac8e196b040fbd8c8
- .NET on Windows: 2014 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3f9dc8e196b040fbfda7
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

AdaCore slapped GPLv3 on the JVM backend. The .NET backend was always GPLv3.#
You can get both from their site, they are there. gnatvm-gpl-2014-src.tar.gz is .NET and JVM, but under JVM it's 2013 version.

Just checked, 2014 contains both.

[Shark8]

Post by Lucretia
Just checked, 2014 contains both.

That's kinda my point: there hasn't been a GPL release for these targets in 3 years; IIRC, there were some 'interesting' bugs and incomplete handling of the 2012 standard. (I'd like to see target Ada 2012 to .NET and JVM.)

[Lucretia]

Post by Lucretia

Post by Shark8
It's been a while since we've seen a new target for JVM or .NET
- Java Virtual Machine on Windows: 2013 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3e5ac8e196b040fbd8c8
- .NET on Windows: 2014 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3f9dc8e196b040fbfda7
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

AdaCore slapped GPLv3 on the JVM backend. The .NET backend was always GPLv3.#

I mentioned this someone on the Github game off discord, this is what he said:

"That sucks :( And it's not healthy for the language as well"

We all know that, except AdaCore.

[J-P. Rosen]

Post by Lucretia

Post by Lucretia

Post by Shark8
It's been a while since we've seen a new target for JVM or .NET
- Java Virtual Machine on Windows: 2013 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3e5ac8e196b040fbd8c8
- .NET on Windows: 2014 - http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3f9dc8e196b040fbfda7
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

AdaCore slapped GPLv3 on the JVM backend. The .NET backend was always GPLv3.#

"That sucks :( And it's not healthy for the language as well"
We all know that, except AdaCore.

Huh? I just checked on libre.adacore.com, both (cross) compilers for JVM
and .NET are there - as well as Lego Mindstorm

[Shark8]

Post by J-P. Rosen
Huh? I just checked on libre.adacore.com, both (cross) compilers for JVM
and .NET are there - as well as Lego Mindstorm

Really?
All I get on the main-page are:
(1) gnat-gpl-2017-x86-windows-bin.exe
(2) spark-discovery-gpl-2017-x86-windows-bin.exe
(3) gnat-gpl-2017-arm-elf-windows-bin.exe

Selecting the "More packages, platforms, versions and sources" link and using the dropdown "Select your platform":
(a) ".NET on Windows" makes the valid year dropdowns 2009..2014.
(b) "Java Virtual Machine on Windows" makes the valid year dropdowns 2009..2013.

If there are newer versions, I'd be most appreciative of links.

[Randy Brukardt]

Post by J-P. Rosen

Post by Lucretia

Post by Lucretia

Post by Shark8
It's been a while since we've seen a new target for JVM or .NET
- Java Virtual Machine on Windows: 2013 -
http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3e5ac8e196b040fbd8c8
- .NET on Windows: 2014 -
http://mirrors.cdn.adacore.com/art/564b3f9dc8e196b040fbfda7
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

AdaCore slapped GPLv3 on the JVM backend. The .NET backend was always GPLv3.#

"That sucks :( And it's not healthy for the language as well"
We all know that, except AdaCore.

Huh? I just checked on libre.adacore.com, both (cross) compilers for JVM
and .NET are there - as well as Lego Mindstorm

How did you do that? "libre.adacore.com" instantly redirects to
www.adacore.com, and there is essentially nothing to download there.

Randy.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Post by Randy Brukardt
How did you do that? "libre.adacore.com" instantly redirects to
www.adacore.com, and there is essentially nothing to download there.

Interesting if so... Since libre.adacore.com is supposed to have been
replaced by www.adacore.com/community

My biggest gripe, currently: libre used to allow selecting specific
packages to be zipped up into one download; community required individual
downloads for each (last time I tried it).

[J-P. Rosen]

Post by Randy Brukardt

Post by J-P. Rosen
Huh? I just checked on libre.adacore.com, both (cross) compilers for JVM
and .NET are there - as well as Lego Mindstorm

How did you do that? "libre.adacore.com" instantly redirects to
www.adacore.com, and there is essentially nothing to download there.

Click on the big "Download" button, which brings you to a page that
offers Gnat for your system. At the bottom of the page, you have a "More
packages, platforms, versions and sources" link that brings you to all
systems.

But I didn't notice that the selected version if you choose one of these
is not 2017.

[Randy Brukardt]

Post by J-P. Rosen

Post by Randy Brukardt

Post by J-P. Rosen
Huh? I just checked on libre.adacore.com, both (cross) compilers for JVM
and .NET are there - as well as Lego Mindstorm

How did you do that? "libre.adacore.com" instantly redirects to
www.adacore.com, and there is essentially nothing to download there.

Click on the big "Download" button, which brings you to a page that
offers Gnat for your system. At the bottom of the page, you have a "More
packages, platforms, versions and sources" link that brings you to all
systems.

Right. But I didn't see a way to get to any of the other stuff, all I saw
was the big download GNAT for your system (which isn't the interesting part
of libre, IMHO). I didn't see the link at the bottom; thanks for pointing it
out.

Randy.

[Shark8]

Post by Lucretia
"That sucks :( And it's not healthy for the language as well"

I'm inclined to agree.
Though, maybe if I get a bit more motivation I'll restart work on Byron.

[g***@hotmail.com]

Post by Shark8
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

What would be your motivation (just curious).
Coincidence, I've just reinstalled GNAT for .NET today to be able to reproduce a nasty bug of the 2013-2014 edition (a really trivial reproducer program could freeze a Windows PC efficiently), but with the .NET platform version change (I guess), the program did not even want to start. That's the problem with .NET: you need to keep up with Windows and .NET versions separately, and with what in exchange, except a loss of performance ? From a marketing point of view, it made sense 15 years ago for Microsoft, being able to sell "their" virtual machine.

[Shark8]

Post by g***@hotmail.com

Post by Shark8
It would be nice to be able to target GNAT to these platforms once again.

What would be your motivation (just curious).

Immediately?
Being able to proof-of-concept some items in a rather large extant codebase at work (Java/JVM) would be very nice. Personal-project-wise the ability to leverage some of the extant .NET languages and functionality would be quite handy (e.g. Delphi.NET's DB facilities, F#'s pure-functional nature, /maybe/ C#'s LINQ, etc).